What is joy? Why is it good? What is the source of joy? Are you sure that you know the source of joy? If Contraception makes it easier to have more sex why do couples who don't use Contraception reported to have the most amount of sex? (3 or more times a week)
I don't think you're asking in good faith if you're asking what joy is and why it's good.
As for the source of joy: it's various! Sex is a form of physical intimacy that fosters closeness and relationships (they call it making love for a reason). Also it feels good and is fun.
That's cool that people that don't use contraception have more sex! Feel free to link the study if you have it, I'd love to read it. As to your question: That sounds very likely to be a selection effect to me and unlikely to be causal. For example, those actively trying to conceive are going to be younger, healthier, and have an additional motivation to have sex. Regardless, my claim isn't that sex wouldn't happen without contraception -- it would still happen, it's just a matter of whether it would involve unwanted pregnancies and disease transmission
But your failing to consider that Contraception is the Prime Cause and Foundational Bedrock of the "Casual Sex" and "Premarital Sex" Culture. Before Contraception was readily available the vast majority of people didn't have sex before marriage and they only had one sexual partner their entire lives. The Unwanted Pregnancies and STDs exploded when Contraception became widely accessible, as did the Divorce Rate, Adultery Rate, and Abortion Rate post Roe
I can't find anything that justifies the claims you're making, could you please point me to some studies? I doubt we'll agree on whether premarital sex is good or not (I think it is!), but I would at least like to understand where your non-moral claims are coming from!
Thanks! Looks like that's just about religious folks having more sex and doesn't mention contraception. The claim was that couples that don't use contraception have more sex. Do you have anything that speaks to that?
Even Teddy Roosevelt knew the truth
Counter-point: sex creates joy, joy is intrinsically good, and contraception makes it easier to have more sex
Yeah, a couple of small logical holes in that big enough enough to drive a Mac truck through.
What is joy? Why is it good? What is the source of joy? Are you sure that you know the source of joy? If Contraception makes it easier to have more sex why do couples who don't use Contraception reported to have the most amount of sex? (3 or more times a week)
I don't think you're asking in good faith if you're asking what joy is and why it's good.
As for the source of joy: it's various! Sex is a form of physical intimacy that fosters closeness and relationships (they call it making love for a reason). Also it feels good and is fun.
That's cool that people that don't use contraception have more sex! Feel free to link the study if you have it, I'd love to read it. As to your question: That sounds very likely to be a selection effect to me and unlikely to be causal. For example, those actively trying to conceive are going to be younger, healthier, and have an additional motivation to have sex. Regardless, my claim isn't that sex wouldn't happen without contraception -- it would still happen, it's just a matter of whether it would involve unwanted pregnancies and disease transmission
But your failing to consider that Contraception is the Prime Cause and Foundational Bedrock of the "Casual Sex" and "Premarital Sex" Culture. Before Contraception was readily available the vast majority of people didn't have sex before marriage and they only had one sexual partner their entire lives. The Unwanted Pregnancies and STDs exploded when Contraception became widely accessible, as did the Divorce Rate, Adultery Rate, and Abortion Rate post Roe
Can you point me to the studies showing the relationships you're describing?
When I've tried to look up evidence for the claims you're making, what I've found is 1) actually couples who use contraception have more sex (https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/01/27/sex-for-married-couples-contraceptives/), and 2) Trends in premarital sex haven't become more common at least since the 50's, even as contraception became more widely accessible (https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2006/premarital-sex-nearly-universal-among-americans-and-has-been-decades).
There also only seem to be negative relationships between contraceptive use and unwanted pregnancy (e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/science/colorados-push-against-teenage-pregnancies-is-a-startling-success.html) and rates of unwanted pregnancy have decreased during historic periods of increase contraceptive use (https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/unintended-pregnancy-united-states).
I can't find anything that justifies the claims you're making, could you please point me to some studies? I doubt we'll agree on whether premarital sex is good or not (I think it is!), but I would at least like to understand where your non-moral claims are coming from!
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Highly religious couples use next to no Contraception and they have the most sex
Thanks! Looks like that's just about religious folks having more sex and doesn't mention contraception. The claim was that couples that don't use contraception have more sex. Do you have anything that speaks to that?