This sounds like an interesting subject for a post. I think I would have to spill a lot of ink to get this right, but let me try one quick comment:
1) There are things innate to females, and things innnate to males. In general these form both societal roles and God given roles. There is not a complete overlap between these in either direction.
2) Feminists attempt to deny this, while simultaneously clinging to some of them. This is one of the great contradictions of feminism.
3) Transgenders attempt to deny this in other directions, which also results in great contradictions. Where somehow wearing a dress makes one female, but having a vagina doesn't.
3) Traditionalists (and theonomists like me) accept these differences and work on figuring out how they work in society.
I am not afraid of 'stereotypes'... indeed I take them further. I believe in gender roles so strong that the 'tomboy' needs to be taught to be 'more like a girl', and likewise the effeminate man. Or boy.
Well, no. That's wrong on pretty much every level. Including the date.
I was in college in 1984 and they were teaching precisely what you are claiming here. It was wrong then, is wrong now, and I have seen it go in horrible ways all during the intervening time.
A full answer would require a full post or even a series but... no. First of all, there have been men filling the male role since, like, the dawn of time. Are you going to try to argue that none of us are unique? That Thomas Jefferson was just like Jefferson Davis? Or David was a mirror image of Daniel?
And there's a good deal to be said for 'clean-cut organization'.
Some may depend here on what we mean by 'masculine'. However I believe you have your facts wrong. One thing that we do as parents, and not just in this area, indeed not even mostly in this area, is to teach our children about acceptable behavior. The six year old loves running around naked. And in his own house, around his own family, more power to him. But when he runs outside (in the States, right now, not in Africa where I used to work) or gets in the car to go to Walmart with us, we put the brakes on his behavior.
Many masculine and feminine issues are like that. I would rather wash the dishes than change the oil in a car. Well, fine. But when it comes to getting married... to a woman... and raising my children as their father... I'm not the one who stayed home and breastfed etc.
There are roles... and you list some of the, ie honourable and the like, where we don't take a naturally dishonourable child and say, "Well, that's just what they're like." We train it out of them. Many masculine and femine traits are like that.
Indeed I have seen devestating results where the parents didn't, and then the child emerged from their cocoon and found themsleves mocked, unable to find a job, etc. I know a family whose son only wants to eat PB and honey. And they LET HIM!! Leaving aside the health issues, how's dating going to go for him? (Leaving aside the dozens of other issues where they haven't trained him).
This sounds like an interesting subject for a post. I think I would have to spill a lot of ink to get this right, but let me try one quick comment:
1) There are things innate to females, and things innnate to males. In general these form both societal roles and God given roles. There is not a complete overlap between these in either direction.
2) Feminists attempt to deny this, while simultaneously clinging to some of them. This is one of the great contradictions of feminism.
3) Transgenders attempt to deny this in other directions, which also results in great contradictions. Where somehow wearing a dress makes one female, but having a vagina doesn't.
3) Traditionalists (and theonomists like me) accept these differences and work on figuring out how they work in society.
I am not afraid of 'stereotypes'... indeed I take them further. I believe in gender roles so strong that the 'tomboy' needs to be taught to be 'more like a girl', and likewise the effeminate man. Or boy.
Well, no. That's wrong on pretty much every level. Including the date.
I was in college in 1984 and they were teaching precisely what you are claiming here. It was wrong then, is wrong now, and I have seen it go in horrible ways all during the intervening time.
A full answer would require a full post or even a series but... no. First of all, there have been men filling the male role since, like, the dawn of time. Are you going to try to argue that none of us are unique? That Thomas Jefferson was just like Jefferson Davis? Or David was a mirror image of Daniel?
And there's a good deal to be said for 'clean-cut organization'.
Some may depend here on what we mean by 'masculine'. However I believe you have your facts wrong. One thing that we do as parents, and not just in this area, indeed not even mostly in this area, is to teach our children about acceptable behavior. The six year old loves running around naked. And in his own house, around his own family, more power to him. But when he runs outside (in the States, right now, not in Africa where I used to work) or gets in the car to go to Walmart with us, we put the brakes on his behavior.
Many masculine and feminine issues are like that. I would rather wash the dishes than change the oil in a car. Well, fine. But when it comes to getting married... to a woman... and raising my children as their father... I'm not the one who stayed home and breastfed etc.
There are roles... and you list some of the, ie honourable and the like, where we don't take a naturally dishonourable child and say, "Well, that's just what they're like." We train it out of them. Many masculine and femine traits are like that.
Indeed I have seen devestating results where the parents didn't, and then the child emerged from their cocoon and found themsleves mocked, unable to find a job, etc. I know a family whose son only wants to eat PB and honey. And they LET HIM!! Leaving aside the health issues, how's dating going to go for him? (Leaving aside the dozens of other issues where they haven't trained him).
Is that a book? It doesn't seem to be a substack.