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I am not sure this group is looking for a conversation. They are just upset.

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Which group?

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The people in the Helen Roy thread that you are arguing with here

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Oh, I see. It is always difficult to know people’s minds and hearts. I’m not sure whether their falsehoods come behind a veil of emotionally brought ignorance, or whether they know they are lying. Feel free to comment here or there, though :)

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I think you are talking past each other

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Well, feel free to jump on the thread and tie the, umm, threads together :)

Or comment on my post with details.

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I don't think that's possible. That's my point.

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