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Hi Mr. Ohlman! There was quite a lot written here and I don't have the space here to respond to all the points you made, but there were two that are particularly relevant to the discussion we were having on the Song: the usage of the word "carnal" and the sexual connotations of the language in Song 1:2-4.

Regarding the issue of "carnal," I was using that word to speak of "mere sexual satisfaction" as if that was the only thing that was on the woman's mind in her longing in Song 1:1-2. This also leads me to clarify once again something you said in your post. You stated, "A ‘kiss’ cannot be transformed into a mere longing for spiritual oneness." This was in your section on interpreting the Song by making the comparison with Nebuchadnezzar's dream. I want to clarify that I'm not transforming the "kiss" into a "mere longing for spiritual oneness."

What I'm saying is that the woman is actively thinking about emotional, spiritual, and covenantal commitment to her beloved in addition to the physical intimacy. It's not that the sexual activity (short of full consummation) isn't present in her longing, it's that she's actively thinking about marital commitment and emotional union with her beloved to put it in its proper light. That kind of romantic desire, where the woman is actively thinking of all those things at once is viewed as a properly ordered desire in the Song. I hope that clarifies.

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